From: IN%"PetherC@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au"
"Petherick, Carol"
2-MAR-:26.95
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
"'ethology'"
Subj: Cattle - effects of noise and/or dust
Another request from me.
Does anyone have any information on the effects of
noise and/or dust on the behaviour and/or liveweight performance of cattle.
I read a recent paper by Joe S and co., and there's snippets of info. in
Temple's books/papers, but does anybody know of more data?
This relates to
a pipeline laying activity (lots of it with heavy machinery) across
extensive country ( 21 days) and the claim is that this had
dramatic effects on weight gains.
I'm reluctant to go into too much detail
here (being rather public!), but am wondered if anyone has any anecdotal or
other information that might have a bearing on this.
I know that some
claims for compensation were made in the US 2 or 3 decades ago in relation
is there anything more than this?
I'd appreciate your help in this.
Carol Petherick
PO Box 5545
Rockhampton
e-mail: petherc@dpi.qld.gov.au
From: IN%"mappleby@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk"
"Mike Appleby"
2-MAR-:48.09
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Cattle - effects of noise and/or dust
> Another request from me.
Does anyone have any information on the effects of
> noise and/or dust on the behaviour and/or liveweight performance of cattle.
> This relates to
> a pipeline laying activity
No, but this reminds me of a good story - I've no idea of the source.
Cows on a farm were behaving strangely, bumping into things and so
Turned out they were standing watching a welder working on the
pipeline at the bottom of the field.
The welder was wearing
goggles, but not surprisingly the cows' vision was suffering.
Solution: someone (who?
The local optician?) made dark glasses for
the cows too.
And no, the source isn't Gary Larsen.
Michael Appleby
Dr M.C. Appleby
Director of Postgraduate Studies
in Agriculture & Resource Economics
Institute of Ecology and Resource Management
University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG, UK
Tel. +44 131 535 4098
Fax. +44 131 667 2601
Email mappleby@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
or michael.appleby@ed.ac.uk
From: IN%"S.Gragert@t-online.de"
2-MAR-:44.77
To: IN%"PetherC@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au"
"Petherick, Carol"
CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
"applied-ethology"
Subj: RE: Cattle - effects of noise and/or dust
Dear Carol,
> Another request from me.
Does anyone have any information on the effects of
> noise and/or dust on the behaviour and/or liveweight performance of cattle.
just this:
The noise level of heavy lorries passing by is around 90 dB.
(I suppose it is dB(A), but it is not said) and pneumatic hammers
range around 100 to 110 dB.(BRUEL & KJAER 1984, Schallmessung)
Noise level depends on distance of course and you have to add 3 dB
for any further source of noise of the same kind.
Perhaps anybody did research on the effect of noise from other sources
and this helps to compare the situations.
-----------------------
Stephanie Gragert
Kochstr. 59
04275 Leipzig
Tel/Fax 4368
S.Gragert@t-online.de
From: IN%""
"VIVIAN & MICKEY BREGMAN"
2-MAR-:58.00
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Cattle - effects of noise and/or dust
At 09:15 AM 3/2/99 +0000, Mike Appleby wrote:
>No, but this reminds me of a good story - I've no idea of the source.
>Cows on a farm were behaving strangely, bumping into things and so
Turned out they were standing watching a welder working on the
>pipeline at the bottom of the field.
The welder was wearing
>goggles, but not surprisingly the cows' vision was suffering.
>Solution: someone (who?
The local optician?) made dark glasses for
>the cows too.
>And no, the source isn't Gary Larsen.
Not that I doubt the story, but, depending upon the number of cattle
(number of cows??) wouldn't it have been easier to set up a folding screen
around the welder??
And a lot cheaper??
And why not make dark contact lenses for the cows, easier to keep in the eyes.
And wasn't the eye damage permanent??
And I am taking this seriously when it isn't??
Vivian Bregman -- dog trainer for forty years --
interested in everything to do with science,
especially Biology ---
From: IN%"J.Durrell@Queens-Belfast.ac.uk"
"Julie Durrell"
2-MAR-:59.92
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: Labelling welfare foods
Janice wrote:
Labeling or branding welfare friendly products? This sounds like
Freedom Food to me! Any comments from the UK?
Coop supermarkets in the UK not only labels their eggs as "free range"
but also as "produced by hens in battery cages" (or at least they used
Promoting certain produce as "non welfare friendly" is probably
more effective than promoting "welfare friendly" produce, as far as
getting consumers to buy the latter is concerned.
Don't know if this is
relevant - I have the habit of skim reading, so my background to the
discussion is a bit sketchy.
Julie Durrell
School of Psychology, Queen's University of Belfast.
From: IN%""
"peggy shunick"
2-MAR-:13.06
To: IN%"J.Durrell@Queens-Belfast.ac.uk"
"Julie Durrell", IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
I understand that there are "predatory friendly" sweaters being marketed at
a local store. ...guess I'll have to follow up on this to satisfy my
curiosity.
At 01:28 PM 3/2/99 +0000, Julie Durrell wrote:
>Janice wrote:
>Labeling or branding welfare friendly products? This sounds like
>relevant - I have the habit of skim reading, so my background to the
>discussion is a bit sketchy.
>Julie Durrell
>School of Psychology, Queen's University of Belfast.
Me, too, Julie (Janice?). Sometimes, I don't do my best keeping up on
Margaret A. (Peggy) Shunick
BA, BA, MS (Tufts Center for Animals and Public Policy)
PO Box 844
406-726-3342
From: IN%"gonyou@sask.usask.ca"
2-MAR-:17.15
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
CC: IN%"GONYOU@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: Graduate Student Assistantships
I have funding for an additional two graduate students.
A description of
the project areas etc follows:
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Prairie Swine Centre Inc. invites applications for two M.Sc. and/or Ph.D.
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Drinking behaviour and water wastage in grower/finisher pigs.
Development of an enclosed dunging area as a means of reducing odours
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Effect of high dietary levels of specific amino acids on pig
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Comparison of dynamic and static management of group housed sows.
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Application procedure.
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From: IN%""
"VIVIAN & MICKEY BREGMAN"
2-MAR-:50.44
"peggy shunick", IN%"J.Durrell@Queens-Belfast.ac.uk"
"Julie Durrell", IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
At 07:50 AM 3/2/99 +0000, peggy shunick wrote:
>I understand that there are "predatory friendly" sweaters being marketed at
>a local store. ...guess I'll have to follow up on this to satisfy my
>curiosity.
I'm not sure that I would want predatory friendly sweaters.
Sounds dangerous.
Vivian Bregman -- dog trainer for forty years --
interested in everything to do with science,
especially Biology ---
From: IN%"ws31@umail.umd.edu"
2-MAR-:29.26
To: IN%"PetherC@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au"
"Petherick, Carol"
CC: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
"'ethology'"
Subj: RE: Cattle - effects of noise and/or dust
In 1990 a US Federal Court in Reno, Nevada ruled in favor of the US
Navy in a case (Nonella vs. US) involving sonic boom influences on
range beef cattle. In the court brief, Nonella - the ranch owner -
claimed $9,000,000 in damages as a consequence of jet overflight. (It
was a large ranch!) His claims in part involved a charge that sonic
booms (from Navy training jets out of Falon Naval Station, Nevada)
disrupted conception in his cows. Lower conception rates led to lower
calf crops which led to his bankruptcy - according to Nonella's claim.
The federal government viewed the case as a likely precedent that
if lost could lead to a deluge of similar lawsuits.
The US Attorney
and the Navy JAG invested heavily in time and money in order
to lessen the likelihood of losing the case.
I worked as an expert witness for the Navy and consultant to the US
Attorney in the case.
I spent over 6 months working (part-time) on
the case and spent about 3 weeks in Nevada gathering information,
giving testimony, and attending the trial.
I collected some 20
linear feet of file information (reprints, depositions, and other
court documents) regarding the influence of noise on animals - which
is now stored here in the Animal Science building basement.
From the information that I gathered at that time, there is little or
no data that would support an argument that noise (even sonic
booms) disrupts the behavior and(or) physiology of cattle to the
extent claimed by Nonella (he claimed a 30% plus decline in calf
crop). Essentially all the info that I was able to obtain indicated
that cattle rather quickly habituate to noise and can tolerate rather
well even high decibel disruptions such as sonic booms. (Sonic booms
seem to be more disruptive for some of the other species especially
some avian species.
Some sonic booms can also cause considerable
startle reactions in most all species including cattle and humans!)
Some the papers that I remember that were good "foundation" articles
were ones by Roger Ewbank (a very good overview article on sonic
booms) and articles by James Bond, a now retired researcher who did
considerable work on the influence of noise on livestock at the US
Dept of Agriculture, Beltsville Agriculture Research Center here in
Carol, from the brief info you give below it seems to me that there
is more at issue in your situation than just noise.
The dust, as you
mention, but also the activity of humans and equipment could be
"disruptors" for range cattle. (I am assuming that you are not
talking about feedlot cattle.) It seems plausible to me that if
pipeline activity kept cattle from grazing at the locations where
pipe were being laid (and this was the pasture area with better
forage), then gain could be influenced.
But if this is the case,
then I would argue that it is not the noise - or not the noise alone
- that is the problem. (In other words even if the construction
workers and equipment were very quite, their presence could still be
disruptive to range cattle.)
Regarding, Nonella, he in my opinion lost his ranch because of high
interest rates and heavy debt load. (He was some $1 to $2 million in
debt _before_ the Navy started super sonic overflight.)
But he was
also one of the most colorful characters that I have every met. He
was the personification of Hoss Cartwright in the old TV series
"Bonanza."
Becoming a participant in litigation involving a
livestock producer can be difficult for we researchers especially if
ones personal sentiments lie on the opposite side of the court room
from where the legal torts (and research data) indicate the judicial
ruling will and(or) should reside.
Good luck,
Ray Stricklin
On Tue, 02 Mar :52 +1000 "Petherick, Carol"
> Another request from me.
Does anyone have any information on the
effects of > noise and/or dust on the behaviour and/or liveweight
performance of cattle. > I read a recent paper by Joe S and co., and
there's snippets of info. in > Temple's books/papers, but does
anybody know of more data?
This relates to > a pipeline laying
activity (lots of it with heavy machinery) across > extensive country
( 21 days) and the claim is that this had > dramatic
effects on weight gains.
I'm reluctant to go into too much detail >
here (being rather public!), but am wondered if anyone has any
anecdotal or > other information that might have a bearing on this.
I know that some > claims for compensation were made in the US 2 or 3
decades ago in relation > is there anything more than
this? > I'd appreciate your help in this.
> Thanks. >
> Carol Petherick > DPI
> TBC > PO Box 5545
> Rockhampton > Qld 4702
> Australia >
> tel: (0)7
> fax: (0)7
> e-mail: petherc@dpi.qld.gov.au >
----------------------
W. Ray Stricklin
University of Maryland
From: IN%"maina@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU"
2-MAR-:41.53
"VIVIAN & MICKEY BREGMAN"
"peggy shunick", IN%"J.Durrell@Queens-Belfast.ac.uk"
"Julie Durrell", IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
I was wondering about the price of the welfare-friendly foods. In
my experience, organic foods and other environmental/animal friendly foods
are significantly more costly than their "regular" counterparts, at least
here in the US. Is this true in the UK?
I do understand that it costs
more to produce these foods, but some food producing companies price their
products so high, that it is absolutely prohibitive. Only the well-to-do
can afford the food, so purchasing the food becomes more of a status
symbol, rather than a welfare-conscious choice.
Now, it may be that due to my graduate stipend, I am a little more
miserly with my money than most people, but I heard countless people
complain about the price of the "friendly" foods, and how it makes them
resent the whole idea! Is this true only in the US (or the New York City
metropolitan area)? How can this problem be resolved? If the producers of
welfare-friendly foods are banking on peoples' desire to purchase
their products because they like animals, then they are selling themselves
short. I really don't believe that they want to be perceived as producers
of high- but in actuality, they are.
I, like many others, want to be animal-friendly when purchasing
food or other products. But my earnings argue against it. Is this just a
case of capitalistic miserliness? If you pay for my lunch, I'd be happy to
discuss this with you. :)
Sincerely,
maina@aesop.rutgers.edu
****************************************
It is not known the distanc
but this much I do know--
that music from afar is coming to my ears. Hafiz
*****************************************
From: IN%"rr25@cus.cam.ac.uk"
2-MAR-:11.21
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
There is some information about the "Freedom Food" labelling scheme at
http://www.rspca.org.uk/content/freedom_food.html
----------------------------------------
Rosemary Rodd
Literary & Linguistic Computing Centre
Sidgwick Avenue, Cambridge CB3 9DA
From: IN%"JNM@dmu.ac.uk"
"Jeremy Marchant"
2-MAR-:29.77
To: IN%"PetherC@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au"
"'Petherick, Carol'", IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
"'ethology'"
Subj: RE: Cattle - effects of noise and/or dust
I can agree with Ray's comments that animals quickly habituate to noise.
Here at Caythorpe, we are about 2 miles away from RAF Cranwell, which is
the pilot training establishment of the Royal Air Force. Not only this,
but it is also home to the Red Arrows aerobatic display team, who as I
type are practicing for the summer season.
Thus, we and our outdoor
pigs, sheep and horses are frequently over-flown by low-level jet
aircraft, without any noticable disadvantageous effects.
Likewise, ADAS
Terrington indoor pig unit is on the flight-path to bombing ranges of
the Norfolk Coast and again is subject to faster and lower over-flying,
without any noticable effect.
The only over-flying that does cause problems are hot air balloons.
There have been a number of cases in the UK of farmers claiming
compensation, usually for pigs breaking out of paddocks and then the
farmer not being able to ever again keep them in with electric fencing.
I recently heard about a case where a farmer had de-populated but still
claimed he could not keep the new population of pigs in the paddocks -
some form of ghostly social transmission had occurred and he was
claiming a seven-figure sum in damages!
There are a couple of papers in The Pig Journal, 1995, Vol 34, on hot
air balloons and pigs:
Penny, R.H.C., Farmer, A-M.T. and Lomas, M.J. "Up and away." - Do hot
air balloons scare outdoor pigs? pp59-67
Vale, P.G.
Do hot air balloons scare outdoor pigs? pp68-70
----------------------------------------------------
Dr. Jeremy Marchant,
School of Agriculture,
De Montfort University,
Caythorpe,
Lincs., NG32 3 EP, UK.
jnm@dmu.ac.uk
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From: IN%""
2-MAR-:15.47
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
maina@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU wrote:
I do understand that it costs
> more to produce these foods, but some food producing companies price their
> products so high, that it is absolutely prohibitive. Only the well-to-do
> can afford the food, so purchasing the food becomes more of a status
> symbol, rather than a welfare-conscious choice.
> How can this problem be resolved?
In most larger metropolitan areas now you can join "food co-ops" to
get healthy organics at fair prices. For a monthly fee, you usually
receive a weekly box full of seasonal produce and eggs. This effort
supports a small local farmer who may otherwise be struggling.
To offset the costs of co-op produce, many organic farms do allow a
partial work trade for food. This is a great way to experience
something most city-folk usually have no access to.
Another option for obtaining organics is, of course, renting space in
a community garden. I understand NYC is famous for these.
Perhaps there are also co-ops for 'free-range' meat producers ?
I personally would love to be able to support the producers of this
kind of product.
My solution on the meats is to "splurge" once a week on a tasty
free-range poultry dinner (and what a difference in taste!), and cut
corners somewhere else (2 or 3 double lattes!).
Donna Reynolds
From: IN%"ilsmith@utkux.utcc.utk.edu"
"Ione Smith"
2-MAR-:21.70
To: IN%"maina@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU"
CC: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 maina@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU wrote:
>Dear all,
> I was wondering about the price of the welfare-friendly foods. In
>my experience, organic foods and other environmental/animal friendly foods
>are significantly more costly than their "regular" counterparts, at least
>here in the US.
This is, unfortunately, often true. Fortunately, though, it isn't *always*
true--and in my city, anyway, it seems to be getting less true with time.
Part of the problem, I strongly suspect, is that the organic foods are
"trendy"--thus, many supermarkets will mark them up even further than
"necessary".
Try to find a local co-op, as Donna (ummm...I think it was Donna)
mentioned. Mine doesn't work the way she describes it, but it still helps
to cut down on costs.
==================================================
http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~ilsmith/SVME.html
The Society for Veterinary Medical Ethics
http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~ilsmith/ethics.html
for all sides of the AR/AW/anti-AR debate
==================================================
Non Impediti Ratione Cogitationis
From: IN%"V.W.Koch@usda.gov"
"V W Koch"
2-MAR-:17.82
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
Julie Durrell wrote:
Coop supermarkets in the UK not only labels their eggs as "free range"
but also as "produced by hens in battery cages" (or at least they used
Promoting certain produce as "non welfare friendly" is probably
more effective than promoting "welfare friendly" produce, as far as
getting consumers to buy the latter is concerned.
Interesting!
My own gut reaction to the two labels confirms, in my mind, that
"non welfare friendly" labels are more effective.
Can any of the psychologists
in the group explain why?
Wendy Koch
v.w.koch@usda.gov
From: IN%""
"Janice Willard"
2-MAR-:52.26
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
At 10:54 AM 3/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Julie Durrell wrote:
>Coop supermarkets in the UK not only labels their eggs as "free range"
>but also as "produced by hens in battery cages" (or at least they used
Promoting certain produce as "non welfare friendly" is probably
>more effective than promoting "welfare friendly" produce, as far as
>getting consumers to buy the latter is concerned.
>Interesting!
My own gut reaction to the two labels confirms, in my mind,
>"non welfare friendly" labels are more effective.
Can any of the
psychologists
>in the group explain why?
>Wendy Koch
>v.w.koch@usda.gov
I see a problem with the definition of "welfare friendly" in food labeling.
It's been my experience (and probably that of most everyone else on this
list) that the general public can be pretty misguided as to what
constitutes the best welfare for an animal and tends to judge what is best
for animals based on human needs and values (and late 20th century values
So if something is labeled "welfare friendly" and it describes a
management practice which runs counter to an animal's best interests, it
will be even more difficult to change the public perception.
This is not
to say that I wouldn't prefer to consume products which are more
ecologically sensitive all around.
But there can be a huge chasm between
truth and advertising.
Janice Willard DVM, MS
From: IN%""
"James F. Brody"
2-MAR-:13.71
To: IN%"hbe-"
"INTERNET:hbe-", IN%"darwin-and-darwinism-request@sheffield.ac.uk"
"Darwin List_Serve", IN%""
"Paleopsych", IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
"Applied Ethology"
Subj: Kiss an Evolutionist: Men, Women, and Darwin
Albert Himoe (I believe!) relayed the text of Natalie Angier's article,
"Men, Women, Sex, and Darwin," published in the NY Times Magazine.
The following is a summary for a piece that I submitted in response.
full essay is at http://www.cape.org/mhn/capeforum/post/3/8
http://forums.behavior.net/evolutionary.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Kiss an Evolutionist: Other Thoughts about Men, Women, and Darwin
Stereotypes of evolutionary thinking are misleading (N. Angier, 2/21/9=
NY Times Mag).
Males and females have overlapping mosaics of characteristics.
Environmental tuning shifts the characteristics displayed by either se=
Male "dominance" is correlated with male "nurturance" in many species.
Male "dominance" in vervet monkeys is often a function of coalitions they=
social conditions and neurochemical changes mutually
influence each other and both in males are heavily influenced by females.=
Female economic successes may be most likely in stable conditions of
relative prosperity in which "feminine" skills for handling alliances and=
extended networks of friendships can operate.
Neither our society nor our planet is a stable niche.
Climatic, socia=
and geological instability make it more likely that our evolved genetic
mechanisms will operate in ways that deceive or surprise us.
everyone=92s interest to be aware of all the possibilities that are conta=
in our nature when the next series of
emergencies occur.
From: IN%"chris.sherwin@bristol.ac.uk"
3-MAR-:16.12
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: welfare labelling
As has already been pointed out, advertising/labelling might not be as
accurate or as descriptive as we would like to think.
currently a huge range of labels which can be applied to food products
with little or no legislation to regulate the implied meaning.
in the UK we can buy 'Farm Fresh' eggs which have been produced by hens
in battery cages, and 'Free-range' bacon produced by piglets in cages -
it was their mothers who were given access to the outdoors.
No wonder the consumer is confused!
----------------------
Chris Sherwin
Division of Animal Health and Husbandry
University of Bristol
Langford House
Phone: (86
E-mail chris.sherwin@bris.ac.uk
From: IN%"chandler@umbi.umd.edu"
"Elizabeth Chandler"
3-MAR-:07.04
To: IN%"Applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: Domestic Companion Animals
Hello everyone.
I have just joined this listserve and am trying to
pull my community (Hyattsville, MD) together to find novel and
creative solutions to its current animal management control solution
(destruction of the animal).
Our county euthanized over 8,000
animals last year (1998) and I am trying to bring that number down
Therefore, if anyone out there has information with regard to animal
welfare issues on this topic (references I can go to, successful
management of other communities' domestic animal population, ethical
support), please reply.
Thank you.
I look forward to learning a great deal by participating
in this listserve.
Elizabeth Chandler
Center of Marine Biotechnology
University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute
chandler@umbi.umd.edu
From: IN%"V.W.Koch@usda.gov"
"V W Koch"
3-MAR-:12.33
To: IN%"applied-ethology-error@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: RE: Labelling welfare foods
That's true, but what does it have to do with my comment?
Wendy Koch
applied-ethology-error@skyway.usask.ca on 03/02/99 04:13:45 PM
To: Applied-ethology@skyway.usask.ca@i@gw
Subject: Re: Labelling welfare foods
At 10:54 AM 3/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Julie Durrell wrote:
>Coop supermarkets in the UK not only labels their eggs as "free range"
>but also as "produced by hens in battery cages" (or at least they used
Promoting certain produce as "non welfare friendly" is probably
>more effective than promoting "welfare friendly" produce, as far as
>getting consumers to buy the latter is concerned.
>Interesting!
My own gut reaction to the two labels confirms, in my mind,
>"non welfare friendly" labels are more effective.
Can any of the
psychologists
>in the group explain why?
>Wendy Koch
>v.w.koch@usda.gov
I see a problem with the definition of "welfare friendly" in food labeling.
It's been my experience (and probably that of most everyone else on this
list) that the general public can be pretty misguided as to what
constitutes the best welfare for an animal and tends to judge what is best
for animals based on human needs and values (and late 20th century values
So if something is labeled "welfare friendly" and it describes a
management practice which runs counter to an animal's best interests, it
will be even more difficult to change the public perception.
This is not
to say that I wouldn't prefer to consume products which are more
ecologically sensitive all around.
But there can be a huge chasm between
truth and advertising.
Janice Willard DVM, MS
From: IN%""
"James F. Brody"
3-MAR-:52.65
To: IN%"kckissan@wam.umd.edu"
"Kelly Caithlin Kissane"
"James F. Brody", IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
"Applied Ethology", IN%""
"Paleopsych", IN%"darwin-and-darwinism-request@sheffield.ac.uk"
"Darwin List_Serve", IN%"hbe-"
"INTERNET:hbe-l@a3
Subj: RE: Kiss an Evolutionist: Men, Women, and Darwin
Message text written by Kelly Caithlin Kissane
sometimes it can't respond fast enough to a drastic environmental change,=
as our ancient whales and sharks found out.
especially Biology ---
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I doubt that the trauma of circumcision has any lasting effect on a
> baby only a few days old.
Remember, at age 0 we all go through an
> extremely traumatic event - birth.
And the long-term effects are ...........
I think another important difference between an animal and a human is
that the animal may associate the person (such as the producer or the
vet) with the traumatic event which might cause a situation of chronic
stress, if this person is often in its environment. Every time the
animal sees the person who inflicted the pain on the animal the first
time, they may fear that they will receive similar pain again. On the
other hand, humans are able to understand that the sight of a doctor
does not automatically mean circumcision.
From: IN%"JNM@dmu.ac.uk"
"Jeremy Marchant" 12-MAR-:16.37
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
Subj: FW: Postdoc job
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If anyone out there is interested in this position, then please contact
Sandra Edwards
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Dr. Jeremy Marchant,
School of Agriculture,
De Montfort University,
Caythorpe,
Lincs., NG32 3 EP, UK.
jnm@dmu.ac.uk
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandra Edwards [SMTP:agr923@abdn.ac.uk]
> Sent: 12 March
> To: Jeremy Marchant
> Subject: Re: Postdoc job
> Please could you draw the attention of anyone who might be
> interested to the attached job details.
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> Sandra Edwards
> Department of Agriculture
> University of Aberdeen
> s.edwards@abdn.ac.uk
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From: IN%"appleby@petbcent.demon.co.uk"
"David Appleby" 13-MAR-:30.41
Subj: APBC's Annual Review Of Cases 1998
The Association of Pet Behaviour Counsellors Annual Review Of Cases 1998
is now available on the web at
http://www.apbc.org.uk/report98.html#TOP
Best wishes.
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Name:David Appleby
Address:The Pet Behaviour Centre,
Upper street, Defford, Worcestershire.
WR8 9AB.England.
Phone:+44(0)
Fax:+44(0)
E-mail:appleby@petbcent.demon.co.uk
WWW: http://www.petbcent.demon.co.uk
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From: IN%"ragtuswa@eden.rutgers.edu"
"Michael Toscano" 15-MAR-:02.87
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
"applied-ethology"
Subj: hormones
This is a question more of curiosity than anything else.
some time last year in the American Association of Zoo Keepers(AAZK)
publication of occasional odd, usually aggressive behaviors female
keepers who were pregnant observed in the animals they cared for.
article suggested their changing hormonal state could be a factor.
Today, I remembered a behavior consult I sat in on between a
behaviorist, a couple, and their dog who was very excitable.
The couple
was expecting a child in several months and were concerned about recent
aggression shown by the dog and the danger it presented
with a child.
Neither of these cases provide much information to chew on, but,
does anyone have knowledge of a woman's (or man's) hormonal status
effecting the animal(s) she/he lives or work with.
Thanks in advance,
mike toscano
ragtuswa@eden.rutgers.edu
From: IN%"mappleby@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk"
"Mike Appleby" 15-MAR-:09.82
To: IN%"applied-ethology@usask.ca"
Subj: UK studentship on learning in hens
UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH
ANIMAL WELFARE RESEARCH GROUP
Postgraduate studentship in Animal Behaviour
Learning in domestic hens
Applications are invited for a three year BBSRC postgraduate
studentship on incentive value learning and incentive contrast in
domestic hens, tenable from 1st October 1999 and based at
Roslin Institute (Edinburgh).
We regret that BBSRC funded
studentships are restricted to candidates who have right of
residency in the UK (3 years prior residency not wholly for
education purposes).
EU nationals are eligible only for tuition
The project will investigate (a) how hens learn about food,
including the value of novel foods, (b) how hens learn about
other aspects of their environment, such as nest boxes and
dust-bathing substrates, and (c) how this affects the results of
preference tests used to assess animal welfare.
studentship will be associated with the Roslin Institute's
project on `Cognition, aggression and frustration in the
domestic hen'.
The studies will have implications for the
management, feeding and welfare of all farm animals, and for
the design and management of housing systems.
Applicants should hold or expect to obtain at least an upper
second class degree in biological science.
They should have
experience of animal behaviour and preferably learning theory.
The studentship will be supervised by Dr Mike Appleby
(University of Edinburgh, Tel 8, Fax
2601, Email michael.appleby@ed.ac.uk), from whom more
details may be obtained, and Dr Marie Haskell (Roslin Institute,
Tel 2, Fax 4, Email
marie.haskell@bbsrc.ac.uk).
Applications, including a c.v. and the names of two referees,
should be sent to: University of Edinburgh Animal Welfare
Research Group, Roslin Institute (Edinburgh), Roslin,
Midlothian EH25 9PS, UK by 30th April 1999.
Michael Appleby
Dr M.C. Appleby
Director of Postgraduate Studies
in Agriculture & Resource Economics
Institute of Ecology and Resource Management
University of Edinburgh
West Mains Road
Edinburgh EH9 3JG, UK
Tel. +44 131 535 4098
Fax. +44 131 667 2601
Email mappleby@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk
or michael.appleby@ed.ac.uk
From: IN%"marie.haskell@bbsrc.ac.uk"
"marie.haskell" 15-MAR-:03.92
To: IN%"applied-ethology@sask.usask.ca"
CC: IN%"/C=GB/ADMD=/PRMD=UK.AC/O=ed/OU=bio.srv0/PN=mappleby/%x400dmw@bbsrc.ac.uk"
Subj: PhD studentship
A PhD studentship is available at the Roslin Institute (Edinburgh),
located near Edinburgh in Scotland, beginning in October 1999.
Behavioural traits in cattle
The aim of the study is to characterise behavioural traits in cattle
relevant to animal production and welfare, in terms of maternal and
neonatal behaviour, docility and aggression. This work will be carried
out in collaboration with the bovine genome mapping programme at
Roslin, with the long-term aim of understanding the genetics of
behaviour.
The successful candidate will receive an excellent scientific and
research training including access to programmes in transferable
skills including statistics, experimental design, computing and
presentation skills, career planning and a thesis workshop. Students
will be registered with the University of Edinburgh Graduate School of
Biology. For details of the projects and further information, visit
our web page at http://www.ri.bbsrc.ac.uk or contact
marie.haskell@bbsrc.ac.uk.
Applicants should hold a first or upper second class degree in an
appropriate discipline. Applications including a full CV and the names
and addresses of two scientific referees should be sent to: Ms Frances
Frame, Roslin Institute (Edinburgh), Roslin, Midlothian EH25 9PS by
31st March, 1999. The studentship is only open to EU members.}